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Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without releasing to the AOSP

1180 points · 723 comments · theanonymousone

wps · 1789760710 · focus · HN ↗
The amount of roadblocks Google is putting up for GrapheneOS is just ridiculous. None of their decisions make any sense, from the delayed source patches upstream, to the embargos, attestation issues, etc. Google simply regrets android being open source.
1. 7734128 · 1789761296 · focus · HN ↗
  It's not a regret. Android would never have been popular in the first place if it had not been open source. If phone makers had been able to anticipate how much the demons at Google would be able to lock down the Android then they would never had used the OS back in ~2009.
  1. thevillagechief · 1789761797 · focus · HN ↗
    I don't think this is actually true. Phone makers seem happy to have the platform locked down even further. They're putting even more roadblocks, as evidenced by most of them making bootloaders unlockable.
    ardacinar · 1789762353 · focus · HN ↗
    They're happy that it is locked down. They're not happy that they're not the ones doing the locking down.
    pjmlp · 1789789812 · focus · HN ↗
    They can easily go back 30 years ago, when each one had their own proprietary in-house OS, using current Android as baseline, or something BSD like PlayStation.
    alightsoul · 1789862133 · focus · HN ↗
    This is what phone manufacturers do. Very few use vanilla AOSP with just Google mobile services and their own hardware drivers.

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