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Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without releasing to the AOSP

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  1. wps · · focus · HN ↗
    The amount of roadblocks Google is putting up for GrapheneOS is just ridiculous. None of their decisions make any sense, from the delayed source patches upstream, to the embargos, attestation issues, etc. Google simply regrets android being open source.
    1. godelski · · focus · HN ↗
      I hope people remember this when advocating for chromium. Just because it is open source doesn't mean they don't control it. We need to start the long process of hard forking now or turn to alternatives like Firefox as a new foundation.

        > Google simply regrets android being open source.
      Android wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't open source. With all the work from outside Google. The same is true chrome.

      But they won't learn that on their own. They are breaking the deals. So we move. We force their hand

      1. cecexacjrgec · · focus · HN ↗
        > or turn to alternatives like Firefox as a new foundation.

        With the way Firefox is heading, that might not be the best idea. Nowadays Mozilla seem more focused on riding the AI-hype wave than actually making an excellent browser people want to actually use.

        1. jdjfnfjdjjeh · · focus · HN ↗
          Mozilla gets 100M a year from Google ??? No fucking way they are biting the hand that feeds.
          1. EbNar · · focus · HN ↗
            Closer to 500M, actually.
            1. hurfdurf · · focus · HN ↗
              ~$585 million in 2024 (86% of total revenue) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stateof.mozilla.org&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;Mozilla%20Fdn%202024%20-%20AuditedFinancials.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stateof.mozilla.org&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;Mozilla%20Fdn%202024%20-%20A...

              Mentioned as &quot;one customer&quot; in the PDF.

              1. jdjfnfjdjjeh · · focus · HN ↗
                Lol yeah off by a factor of 6 but yeah no fuxnig way still stands
                1. wwiinn · · focus · HN ↗
                  They still produced Firefox OS for mobile phones.
              2. ricardobayes · · focus · HN ↗
                An interesting read. If I&#x27;m reading page 20 right, they hold over 1 billion worth of investments? I&#x27;ve seen smaller hedge funds.
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