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Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without releasing to the AOSP

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  1. wps · · focus · HN ↗
    The amount of roadblocks Google is putting up for GrapheneOS is just ridiculous. None of their decisions make any sense, from the delayed source patches upstream, to the embargos, attestation issues, etc. Google simply regrets android being open source.
    1. godelski · · focus · HN ↗
      I hope people remember this when advocating for chromium. Just because it is open source doesn't mean they don't control it. We need to start the long process of hard forking now or turn to alternatives like Firefox as a new foundation.

        > Google simply regrets android being open source.
      Android wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't open source. With all the work from outside Google. The same is true chrome.

      But they won't learn that on their own. They are breaking the deals. So we move. We force their hand

      1. arcanemachiner · · focus · HN ↗
        > Android wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't open source.

        Yes, and now that they've achieved market saturation, it's time to pull up the ladder.

        Thanks for all the free work, suckers!

        1. spydum · · focus · HN ↗
          Don't worry, we will fork and just repeat the pattern with new names! See you next time!
          1. pjmlp · · focus · HN ↗
            GNU generation is over 50 nowadays, and newer don't really get open source as we used to.

            I mean, FOSDEM full of Apple laptops on the corridors, the message was really lost.

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