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Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without releasing to the AOSP

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  1. wps · · focus · HN ↗
    The amount of roadblocks Google is putting up for GrapheneOS is just ridiculous. None of their decisions make any sense, from the delayed source patches upstream, to the embargos, attestation issues, etc. Google simply regrets android being open source.
    1. godelski · · focus · HN ↗
      I hope people remember this when advocating for chromium. Just because it is open source doesn't mean they don't control it. We need to start the long process of hard forking now or turn to alternatives like Firefox as a new foundation.

        > Google simply regrets android being open source.
      Android wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't open source. With all the work from outside Google. The same is true chrome.

      But they won't learn that on their own. They are breaking the deals. So we move. We force their hand

      1. cecexacjrgec · · focus · HN ↗
        > or turn to alternatives like Firefox as a new foundation.

        With the way Firefox is heading, that might not be the best idea. Nowadays Mozilla seem more focused on riding the AI-hype wave than actually making an excellent browser people want to actually use.

        1. stuaxo · · focus · HN ↗
          It's not really a "both sides" thing given the scale difference between what Google is up to and that.
          1. cecexacjrgec · · focus · HN ↗
            No one is forcing Mozilla’s hand (afaik) and no one is actually thinking “if Firefox had a chatbot that might convince me to move over”. Youre right that it is not a “both sides” thing, its a “Mozilla thing”. Through and through.
            1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
              Some people are thinking "Firefox doesn't have a chatbot so I'll use chrome" though
              1. rockskon · · focus · HN ↗
                Are any of those people not investors?
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