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1. wps · 1789760710 · focus · HN ↗

   The amount of roadblocks Google is putting up for GrapheneOS is just ridiculous. None of their decisions make any sense, from the delayed source patches upstream, to the embargos, attestation issues, etc. Google simply regrets android being open source.

   1. godelski · 1789763541 · focus · HN ↗

      I hope people remember this when advocating for chromium. Just because it is open source doesn't mean they don't control it. We need to start the long process of hard forking now or turn to alternatives like Firefox as a new foundation.

        > Google simply regrets android being open source.
      

      Android wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't open source. With all the work from outside Google. The same is true chrome.

      But they won't learn that on their own. They are breaking the deals. So we move. We force their hand

      1. nomel · 1789763674 · focus · HN ↗

         > So we move. We force their hand

         What do you have in mind?

         1. PaulCarrack · 1789763840 · focus · HN ↗

            > We need to start the long process of hard forking now or turn to alternatives like Firefox as a new foundation.

            1. luqtas · 1789766571 · focus · HN ↗

               oh yes sure. just like we can shift the population into installing Debian into their machines so we also deter M$ and Apple abuse /s

               1. olyjohn · 1789773426 · focus · HN ↗

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                  1. mitxela · 1789779298 · focus · HN ↗

                     How did that happen, anyway? Tabs? What's the next killer feature after tabs? Maybe sync?

                     1. NOTanAlagent · 1789779988 · focus · HN ↗

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                     2. grahamburger · 1789781587 · focus · HN ↗

                        Haven't all the major browsers had sync for ages? I've been using Firefox's built-in sync for so long I don't even remember what it was like without it.
                     3. epihelix · 1789791866 · focus · HN ↗

                        Adblock, I would have thought. And Google can't compete in this space, by their very nature.

                        This is the message that Firefox needs to push: Hate ads? Use Firefox.

                        1. EbNar · 1789794451 · focus · HN ↗

                           Considering that Firefox by itself doesn't block anything without extensions, that seemingly less than 10% of users use extensions and that tgere5are already quite a few snappier browsers that block ads by default...
                        2. mitxela · 1789822576 · focus · HN ↗

                           Ooh, I think you're right. Even better if it can bypass more annoyances, cookie popups, captchas and (if legal) paywalls. Maybe it should have Libredirect built in. It could be a user agent, instead of a site owner agent.

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