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Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without releasing to the AOSP

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  1. wps · · focus · HN ↗
    The amount of roadblocks Google is putting up for GrapheneOS is just ridiculous. None of their decisions make any sense, from the delayed source patches upstream, to the embargos, attestation issues, etc. Google simply regrets android being open source.
    1. godelski · · focus · HN ↗
      I hope people remember this when advocating for chromium. Just because it is open source doesn't mean they don't control it. We need to start the long process of hard forking now or turn to alternatives like Firefox as a new foundation.

        > Google simply regrets android being open source.
      Android wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't open source. With all the work from outside Google. The same is true chrome.

      But they won't learn that on their own. They are breaking the deals. So we move. We force their hand

      1. the_real_cher · · focus · HN ↗
        LOL "start" using Firefox. I've been using Firefox for half a decade. There's zero I miss about Chrome.
        1. OtomotO · · focus · HN ↗
          LOL half a decade.

          I've been using it for more than 20 years.

          I don't know why either of use loled though

          1. vsviridov · · focus · HN ↗
            LOL, I've been using it since Netscape Navigator 3.0 Gold, via Mozilla M3 (SeaMonkey tech preview), Phoenix, Firebird, and then finally Firefox :D
            1. cecexacjrgec · · focus · HN ↗
              Me too. Too bad I had to abandon it because Mozilla seem more focused on making AI-nonsense than a browser nowadays. No, Firefox, you don’t need AI features. You do need a better UI. You do need smoother scrolling. You do need privacy focus (which automatically means you do not need AI features). You do need to feel like you belong on the platform you’re installed on and not wish everything were Linux. You do need better designers that understand UX is not just “add controls everywhere”.
              1. josephg · · focus · HN ↗
                Huh? What ai features? Firefox seems largely the same as it did a few years ago.

                I’m not doubting they added some ai junk somewhere. But whatever they did seems very easy to ignore.

                1. olyjohn · · focus · HN ↗
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