Perhaps better looking at it without the 3D Cache on GB6 scores.
2020 Zen 3 AMD Ryzen 7 5800 - 1852
2024 Zen 5 AMD Ryzen 9600X. - 2914
2027? Zen 6 - Est 3200?
And compare this to Apple.
M6 4000+
M5 3600+
M4 3300+
Even the Snapdragon X2 Elite X2E is better at 3300.
The gap isn't exactly shrinking. And I would love x86 to prove me wrong. But even a hypothetical Zen 7 in 2028 ( 2029 for consumer ) may only catch up to Apple's M5 released in 2025.
So far, AARCH64's advantages mostly seem to affect single core performance. AMD is also behind in the nanometer race, which is one of the ways Apple managed to improve their peformance over the years as well. If they manage to catch up in terms of die shrink, I think their multi-core perf will once again put AMD in the lead for data processing at the very least.
Although, if you count EPYC, which you might as well with the prices Apple charges for their top-end models, AMD still beats Apple with ease at multi-processing.
It's a real shame that these processors are made by Apple (and Qualcomm, I suppose). They'd be my go-to chip if they weren't.
The AMD EPYC Zen 6 is built on TSMC N2, so it is a similar comparison including clock speed, x86 just hasn't delivered.
Apple has been iterating on a yearly basis, A17, A18, A19 and A20 are all different core design. Some of them just so happens to come with new node. On the other hand Zen 5 to Zen 6 took 24 to 30 months.
ksec · · focus · HN ↗
2020 Zen 3 AMD Ryzen 7 5800 - 1852
2024 Zen 5 AMD Ryzen 9600X. - 2914
2027? Zen 6 - Est 3200?
And compare this to Apple.
M6 4000+
M5 3600+
M4 3300+
Even the Snapdragon X2 Elite X2E is better at 3300.
The gap isn't exactly shrinking. And I would love x86 to prove me wrong. But even a hypothetical Zen 7 in 2028 ( 2029 for consumer ) may only catch up to Apple's M5 released in 2025.
jeroenhd · · focus · HN ↗
Although, if you count EPYC, which you might as well with the prices Apple charges for their top-end models, AMD still beats Apple with ease at multi-processing.
It's a real shame that these processors are made by Apple (and Qualcomm, I suppose). They'd be my go-to chip if they weren't.
ksec · · focus · HN ↗
Apple has been iterating on a yearly basis, A17, A18, A19 and A20 are all different core design. Some of them just so happens to come with new node. On the other hand Zen 5 to Zen 6 took 24 to 30 months.