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Xcode 27.1 Beta Release Notes

154 points · 116 comments · CameronBanga

  1. yreg · · focus · HN ↗
    Finally! So we have a little over a month between getting the simulator and first customers running our apps in Duo.

    I expect that most apps will look rather broken on release, but it will be smoothed out eventually.

    1. gyomu · · focus · HN ↗
      Apps that support iPad are 95% fine unless you do crazy custom things (which Apple has been telling developers for decades now that they shouldn’t do), and apps that are phone only are letterboxed, but still entirely usable.

      How many customers do you expect to be running on Duo for the first year of its existence?

      I’d be surprised if it was >0.01% for anyone. Apple wants you to drop everything to support all the bells and whistles for their new device, but even if you take 3 months to fix minor layout bugs, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal.

      I have friends who dropped everything to support the Vision Pro, and I don’t think any of them felt like it was worth it in retrospect. Even the ones that got featured by Apple as a result didn’t see more than a few thousand downloads.

      1. AdamN · · focus · HN ↗
        > I have friends who dropped everything to support the Vision Pro, and I don’t think any of them felt like it was worth it in retrospect. Even the ones that got featured by Apple as a result didn’t see more than a few thousand downloads.

        They should remember that they got quite a bit of social capital within Apple by doing that and hopefully they're keeping those relationships warm. But yeah Vision Pro hasn't turned out to be a big ecosystem so far.

        1. grey-area · · focus · HN ↗
          Because Apple has always treated its developers so well!

          Vision Pro will be cancelled at some point, it’s just nowhere near popular enough and never will be - the air has gone out of that VR bubble.

          I wouldn’t be surprised if duo is also cancelled because it is another copycat move which is not central to Apples business and will not be mass market.

          1. user43928 · · focus · HN ↗
            It's going to be mass market and I wouldn't be surprised if it sells out on launch day in the US.
            1. grey-area · · focus · HN ↗
              I don’t think a $2k phone is anywhere near mass market, esp given the likely downturn ahead.
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