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1. khoury · 1789761364 · focus · HN ↗

   I'm just gonna ignore this thing and continue as if it never existed. Worked with Vision Pro that no body uses and will work with this.

   1. whatever1 · 1789761921 · focus · HN ↗

      It is indeed a niche product. Its price reflects the sales expectations of Apple.

      But its form factor has been validated for almost a decade now from other manufacturers. So iPhone Duo will do fine. It will not surpass a slab iPhone but fine.

      Vision Pro was a completely new beast, the hardware was not there, the market was not there.

      1. dozerly · 1789762049 · focus · HN ↗

         The price, hardware, and market was not there for the Vision Pro. There was no reason to buy a VR headset that couldn’t play games.
      2. testing22321 · 1789762153 · focus · HN ↗

         > Its price reflects the sales expectations of Apple.

         People famously said that of the first iPhone, expensive at the time.

         Then about the $1k iPhone X.

         Apple have made phones a fashion accessory and status symbol. I won’t be surprised if the Duo sells extreme well, even by iPhone standards.

         1. selectodude · 1789762670 · focus · HN ↗

            My only concern is that they'll sell out so quickly for so long that I'll have to wait for the iPhone Duo Two-o because they won't be easy to get until like May 2027.
      3. CharlesW · 1789762595 · focus · HN ↗

         > It is indeed a niche product.

         It's worth noting that "niche" in this case means ~10M in its first year, comparted to an estimated 250M Apple smartphone shipments in 2027. So far, Apple has sold ~600K Vision Pro in total.

         Also, supporting Duo is not an enormous lift if you're already supporting resizable windows, as developers are required to do for OS 27.

      4. fg137 · 1789763580 · focus · HN ↗

         The form factor of Vision Pro has also been validated for a decade from other manufacturers.

         And that means nothing. Because other manufacturers are not doing well either.

         1. whatever1 · 1789768962 · focus · HN ↗

            Yeah the market had shown that anything bulkier/heavier than a pair of regular glasses is not acceptable. Not sure why apple released it unless it is a glorified dev kit that would allow devs imagine a use case for a product that is 10 years away.

            1. adastra22 · 1789860704 · focus · HN ↗

               That is what the AVP is. They’re pretty open about this at launch and since.
      5. isatty · 1789764345 · focus · HN ↗

         I know exactly one person who has a foldable phone and I live in sf. I’ve never even considered getting one and I like new tech.

         I’m not doubting that there’s demand for it but I wonder who/where?

         1. reaperducer · 1789764480 · focus · HN ↗

            I’m not doubting that there’s demand for it but I wonder who/where?

            I spend a lot of time in hospitals, and I see doctors with them.

            That may also explain why Apple isn't too worried about the price.

         2. MSKJ · 1789766031 · focus · HN ↗

            All over China/Asia, anecdotal statistic
         3. matwood · 1789798399 · focus · HN ↗

            > I know exactly one person who has a foldable phone and I live in sf.

            If we're comparing anecdotes, when I lived in the states far from sf many tech people I knew had folding phones. They loved them and I was curious, but I like iOS.

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