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1. righthand · 1789756315 · focus · HN ↗

   So carry a separate device while traveling. Or wipe your phone, then restore after the border. This is just going to lead to a service that does this for you and the overreaching feds won’t be able to do anything about it.

   And as far as I can tell you still don’t have to give them your pin code.

   1. autoexec · 1789756984 · focus · HN ↗

      They don't need your pin, they can just hack the phone take all your data anyway. ICE has a contract with Cellebrite

      1. puppycodes · 1789758004 · focus · HN ↗

         Not really. Cellebrite isn't magic. If you have an up to date OS and a strong password not pin, encryption functions as it should. The best thing to do is simply have a travel phone.

         1. matheusmoreira · 1789772430 · focus · HN ↗

            Right now it seems GrapheneOS is the only OS capable of resisting Cellebrite.

            1. puppycodes · 1789943039 · focus · HN ↗

               Thats not at all accurate. When you say "resisting" you are glossing over really important distinctions. The lastest versions of iOS are perfectly capable of being locked down in a such a way that they are not able to be penetrated by Cellebrite.

               The info extracted is the nuance your missing here. Cellebrite doesnt break encryption, it brute forces weak PINs and passwords and collects metadata thats outside of the protected volume.

               Your online activity likely exposes much much more about you than the data extracted by Cellebrite. These distinctions matter as its really easy to misunderstand and sensitionalize their tools.

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