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Border agents can search cellphones without a warrant or reasonable suspicion

235 points · 198 comments · mmh0000

  1. mmh0000 · · focus · HN ↗
    It is insane to me that judges consistently rule that the constitution doesn't apply because there's a "border" within 100 miles.

    The 4th Amendment says, exactly:

       The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
    
    I do not know how that could be unclear. My cellphone is my effect, and arguably, also a "paper". Which SHALL NOT BE VIOLATED. But apparently, I'm too dumb to understand the sentence[1].

    [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Border_search_exception" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United...

    1. ghusto · · focus · HN ↗
      Do constitutional rights apply to non-citizens? I always thought the constitution of the USA was for USA citizens, but then I&#x27;m not from the USA and am watching all this from very far away.
      1. Zak · · focus · HN ↗
        Most of them do. They&#x27;re usually constructed as restrictions on the government&#x27;s authority rather than grants of rights to a specific group of people, and there are court rulings clearly stating rights like freedom of speech and freedom from unreasonable search apply to any person subject to the government&#x27;s authority.

        Non-citizens don&#x27;t get the right to bear arms as far as I know.

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