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Border agents can search cellphones without a warrant or reasonable suspicion

235 points · 198 comments · mmh0000

  1. righthand · · focus · HN ↗
    So carry a separate device while traveling. Or wipe your phone, then restore after the border. This is just going to lead to a service that does this for you and the overreaching feds won’t be able to do anything about it.

    And as far as I can tell you still don’t have to give them your pin code.

    1. autoexec · · focus · HN ↗
      They don't need your pin, they can just hack the phone take all your data anyway. ICE has a contract with Cellebrite
      1. puppycodes · · focus · HN ↗
        Not really. Cellebrite isn't magic. If you have an up to date OS and a strong password not pin, encryption functions as it should. The best thing to do is simply have a travel phone.
        1. iAMkenough · · focus · HN ↗
          Imaged encrypted volumes can be decrypted later. We're building massive amounts of compute with government bonds these days.
          1. puppycodes · · focus · HN ↗
            This is true for literally everything encrypted. Security is always a function of time and effort. The name of the game is being not worth the effort.
            1. iAMkenough · · focus · HN ↗
              When the effort becomes trivial, so does the justification for it. Doesn’t cost them any of their own money.
            2. puppycodes · · focus · HN ↗
              Once again its not as simple as oh its easy now. It's highly dependent on how much time has passed, who you are, what your worried about... etc... making it out like everyone is on the same plane makes the threat assessment worthless.
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