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Border agents can search cellphones without a warrant or reasonable suspicion

235 points · 198 comments · mmh0000

  1. andix · · focus · HN ↗
    Anyone still crossing US borders with electronic devices that aren't fully wiped? This is company policy for some European companies for a long time. Even during the Biden administration.

    Most employees just receive a wiped phone/laptop for the duration of the trip. Depending on the country its either a device that only has access to the bare minimum of Services, or for countries like Russia they issue a dumb phone that can only call and text.

    1. flerchin · · focus · HN ↗
      It's frankly insane that y'all have to do that, and yes Americans cross the border, perhaps haplessly.
      1. andix · · focus · HN ↗
        Is there any difference between US citizens and visitors? It just seems like US citizens think those charades are normal and don't question them. In my home country I can just deny getting my devices searched. They might be allowed to seize and seal them, awaiting a court order for searching the device. Which I could appeal. Basically the same process as anywhere else in the country, international borders are not some special place that gives the police superpowers.

        Ps: we also don't have some special paramilitary border police. Just regular police stationed at the border.

        1. rootusrootus · · focus · HN ↗
          > It just seems like US citizens think those charades are normal and don't question them. In my home country I can just deny getting my devices searched

          What home country is that? Some places (UK I think is one) have less protection at the border for citizens than the US does. The risk of being searched for Average Joe is so small that most people don't even think about it. HN is disproportionately worried.

          1. andix · · focus · HN ↗
            It's not the UK, which is similarly fu*d up as the US.
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