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Border agents can search cellphones without a warrant or reasonable suspicion

235 points · 198 comments · mmh0000

  1. _2pou · · focus · HN ↗
    It's a massive swing and a miss that GrapheneOS has a religious opposition to a VeraCrypt-style hidden volume arrangement that allows different passwords to unlock different OS volumes.

    It would be vastly superior to their current solution, which basically guarantees contempt charges.

    I hope they change their mind soon!

    1. PaulKeeble · · focus · HN ↗
      The problem is it will be detectable and detected and then the password demanded and a failure to provide it will result in charges. I think unfortunately the answer is the phone has to be plausibly empty when crossing the US border, they should focus their efforts on being able to store the full state of the phone remotely and encrypted and being able to restore it easily.
      1. mixdup · · focus · HN ↗
        Would it be detectable to some goon at the border? Probably not. They'd put in the sanitized password, see nothing, and let the person go. If it gets seized and an FBI or CIA analyst gets ahold of it, then yeah the smart guys are going to see it but you'd be in that situation anyway, so why not have an out that may avoid it?
        1. _2pou · · focus · HN ↗
          Hidden volumes are impossible to detect, even with the password to the 'clean' volume and full device access.
        2. Cider9986 · · focus · HN ↗
          Yes. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49399927">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49399927. In the US you don&#x27;t have key disclosure laws so the best course of action is to shut the fuck up [1].

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