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North Korean nuclear test sets off years of earthquakes

225 points · 181 comments · rbanffy

  1. ortusdux · · focus · HN ↗
    How long until someone attempts to diffuse a pent up fault line via nuclear geoengineering?
    1. rtkwe · · focus · HN ↗
      The issue on real faults is they span massive areas. The San Andreas fault system spans basically the entire coast of California.

      Even if we could identify the right points there's a big liability shift both legal and political between doing nothing and intentionally setting off an earthquake that would be hard to predict the size of. It's part of why ~~proscribed~~ prescribed burns fell out of favor, it's way easier to do nothing and blame nature than defending damage caused by intentional acts. It gets into messy areas where it's hard to convince people that the damage was lesser than it otherwise would have been in the future.

      1. WarmWash · · focus · HN ↗
        >It gets into messy areas where it's hard to convince people that the damage was lesser than it otherwise would have been in the future.

        Morbidly adjacent, the US is still getting dragged over the coals for using nukes on Japan rather than a ground invasion.

        1. rtkwe · · focus · HN ↗
          The main reason is there are alternative paths where neither were required. Japan was already fishing around for diplomatic end to the war with the major sticking point being conditional vs unconditional surrender and their main condition iirc was protection for the Emperor which the US ended up not messing with significantly anyways (at least in terms of execution for various war crimes committed by Imperial Japanese forces). That's usually the main argument I see and honestly I see the points there, Japan really was putting out fairly significant feelers about a possible negotiated end to the war before the Soviet Union was able to pivot to the Far East theater.

          We'll never /really/ know what the outcome of a negotiated peace would have looked like since it was obviated so soon after it started by the bombing and Japan's unconditional surrender afterwards. We don't really know how much that path would differ from the outcome of the unconditional surrender turned out to be. The main point is it's not an either or situation between bomb and the bloody full on land invasion scenarios as presented by the bomb apologist [0] camp.

          [0] I mean this in the neutral dictionary sense of simply "one that defends a controversial position", just to clarify.

          1. Teever · · focus · HN ↗
            If nuking Japan wasn't necessary and excessive then why didn't they surrender after the first nuke was dropped?
            1. FireHorseAutumn · · focus · HN ↗
              Communications between Hiroshima and Tokyo had totally broken down. When input was received on what actually happened, it would have been so fantastic that it would have been hard to process. And this was at a time where the Bolsheviks-hard to understate the Imperial Japanese government's loathing and horror of Communism despite the pragmatic and often deeply mutually cynical relationship they had during the war-were about to go to war with them.
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