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1. elteto · 1789734778 · focus · HN ↗

   While the technology itself may be great (I don't really know since I don't use them) it has been co-opted by the tech conglomerates as another form of isolating and walling off users into their ecosystems.

   And honestly, nowadays, if tech companies are pushing really hard for something then that is an immediate red flag for me and it bears more scrutiny. One of those "if you see them running that way you run the opposite way".

   1. reddalo · 1789736878 · focus · HN ↗

      Exactly. That's why I'll never use passkeys: they're just another way to force us into a commercial walled garden.

      Passwords with 2FA are simply better and more freedom friendly.

      1. apexalpha · 1789740307 · focus · HN ↗

         I just bought a passkey... It's a USB device, completely separate from any big conglomerates.

         1. reddalo · 1789744788 · focus · HN ↗

            But then you need to phisically carry it along with you everywhere you go, if you want to log into a service :/

            1. apexalpha · 1789747723 · focus · HN ↗

               Yes, it’s like a key. :)

               Though realistically I use a passkey for services I care about and a password manager for the rest.

               1. eikenberry · 1789749202 · focus · HN ↗

                  Keys can be copied very easily. It’s one of their primary features. Can you easily copy your USB key?

                  1. krupan · 1789752977 · focus · HN ↗

                     Physical keys can easily be copied, and physical locks can easily be picked. That might be fine for your house or storage unit, but for your bank account or your car (newer cars no longer have simple physical keys/locks), we've moved beyond that tech.

                     1. mrguyorama · 1789757224 · focus · HN ↗

                        That any and all physical security measures can be defeated is a feature, not a bug. Almost no human beings actually need that level of security, and the tradeoffs are absolutely not worth it for those of us without Mossad as a threat.

                        How often do people lock themselves out of their own house? Don't you know anyone with ADHD? Imagine any time that happens it is mathematically verifiably permanent as a fact of reality itself. It doesn't matter that the state still views you as the legal owner, you are never allowed in ever again.

                        1. krupan · 1789758219 · focus · HN ↗

                           No web service is like that. They all offer recovery options. We aren't talking about Bitcoin here.

                           1. EvanAnderson · 1789760268 · focus · HN ↗

                              The trend of companies becoming easier to contact is well-documented.

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