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I don't like passkeys

853 points · 819 comments · ethanhawksley

  1. vanschelven · · focus · HN ↗
    Passkeys remind me of ipv6 in that they are a "solution" coming from the supply-side, without (apparently) having done any research in what motivates actual users (and what would motivate them to switch).

    <<ducks>>

    1. frantathefranta · · focus · HN ↗
      I think passkeys were made to work in mind with complete idiots (here's a pop-up, tap it, now you have access to website without password, don't think about where it was saved or that it exists at all). I can understand parts of IPv6 like Router Advertisement being like that but there is so much customizability for the user that I can't really see them being similar that way.
      1. cpburns2009 · · focus · HN ↗
        Except they never considered that "complete idiots" could lose access to their phone's passkeys.
        1. mahboi · · focus · HN ↗
          They did, that's why they sync
          1. cpburns2009 · · focus · HN ↗
            Right... just let me pull out my non-existent spare phone when mine breaks or gets lost.
            1. mahboi · · focus · HN ↗
              It'll work if you have a laptop on the same account, iCloud or 1password or whatever else. If you only had a phone, you set the account up again on your new phone.
              1. timbit42 · · focus · HN ↗
                How does a person sync their passkeys between devices?
                1. mahboi · · focus · HN ↗
                  iCloud, Chrome, 1password, etc
      2. mahboi · · focus · HN ↗
        To make it about security on both sides: IPv4 NAT is idiot-proof. IPv6 replaced that with a firewall that may or may not be default-deny.
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