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1. kenrick95 · 1789734684 · focus · HN ↗

   Passkeys have a marketing problem where no one is able to describe simply what it is without having to use technical jargon. There's also the problem where each OS tries too hard in pushing this to the face of end-user

   1. cfiggers · 1789735501 · focus · HN ↗

      Imagine a password, but it a) types itself for you and b) detects when it's being sent to an impostor site and blocks them from seeing itself, so it can't be phished.

      Tada, passkeys.

      1. rcxdude · 1789735686 · focus · HN ↗

         Cool, where are they stored? (I know the answer: 'it depends', and that's the big problem with their usability: most users haven't a clue what the answer is and most tech support can't answer that question straightforwardly because it depends on some decisions the user probably didn't even realise they made).

         1. wolvoleo · 1789735831 · focus · HN ↗

            In a secure vault on your phone

            1. mystifyingpoi · 1789736197 · focus · HN ↗

               So if I drop my phone to the toilet, I will forever lose access to everything? Since the vault is on my phone.

               1. faust201 · 1789742465 · focus · HN ↗

                  A majority have more than one phone. Or at least they can get a new SIM card and sign into the iCloud account. Then all passkeys are synced from cloud.

                  Yes, if you are edward snowden then not for you. For rest of us - it is useful

                  1. caryme · 1789742924 · focus · HN ↗

                     A majority have more than one phone?

                     1. faust201 · 1789752926 · focus · HN ↗

                        Or they have a laptop or tablet - even the cheapest one that has logged into Google or Apple. That way they can recover.
                  2. chrystalkey · 1789743534 · focus · HN ↗

                     Idk how much money you must be having, but all of my bubbles only ever go with one device

                     1. faust201 · 1789751419 · focus · HN ↗

                        this is ridiculous. I don't even have a bubble device. Run lineageos in a decent 2020 device moto G32 for €100.

                        Yes, you can afford to host everything locally. Not everyone can.

                  3. recursive · 1789744025 · focus · HN ↗

                     This is crazy. I have one phone and zero iCloud. I don't think I'm that unusual.

                     1. faust201 · 1789751244 · focus · HN ↗

                        You are exaggerating. If the loss or lockdown is so bad then many would have stopped using any of icloud or google equivalent. People are able to depend on it. People are able to repair and use phones even when it falls into abyss.

                        1. recursive · 1789754192 · focus · HN ↗

                           Well, I mean yes. People for whom it works. Others never started.

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