> The problem is that vibe coding makes it possible to build a substantial solution before learning enough about the problem to recognise that a much better solution exists.
This example and Bend aside, I find this to be the biggest struggle with the perceived intelligence we have today. It's great at producing something that works, but it is not great at calling you out when you don't know what you don't know.
It's not able to educate and course correct you unless you have great self awareness and discipline.
That said, I think this goes for everything, it's easy to fall into this trap because it is very human. We simply don't know what we don't know, so it's not uncommon to revisit an old solution only to be enlightened that there is now new information that allows you to replace it with something much better.
I don't think anything here is new or changed, if anything changed is really just the rate that we experience this. LLMs make it easier and faster for the feedback cycle to happen.
Now back to Bend, I think putting your work out there and being unapologetic about it, open source even, and willing to take feedback, will go a long way.
I am more worried about the many closed source implementations of LLM built products that are being sold and people are depending upon that don't get this great criticism from many different thinking heads.
> but it is not great at calling you out when you don't know what you don't know.
or itself, the moment it hits some ambiguity it becomes a spaghetti throwing machine, half the time using a single attempt (arbitrarily picks answers with little logic or attention to nuance).
They've been trained to behave in ways that make them run longer, quantity over quality. I suspect this is because the people training them are extreme vine coders. Certainly seems that way by their public statements and harness releases.
I would much prefer if they stopped and asked questions. Mild improvement with markdown engineering...
hmokiguess · · focus · HN ↗
This example and Bend aside, I find this to be the biggest struggle with the perceived intelligence we have today. It's great at producing something that works, but it is not great at calling you out when you don't know what you don't know.
It's not able to educate and course correct you unless you have great self awareness and discipline.
That said, I think this goes for everything, it's easy to fall into this trap because it is very human. We simply don't know what we don't know, so it's not uncommon to revisit an old solution only to be enlightened that there is now new information that allows you to replace it with something much better.
I don't think anything here is new or changed, if anything changed is really just the rate that we experience this. LLMs make it easier and faster for the feedback cycle to happen.
Now back to Bend, I think putting your work out there and being unapologetic about it, open source even, and willing to take feedback, will go a long way.
I am more worried about the many closed source implementations of LLM built products that are being sold and people are depending upon that don't get this great criticism from many different thinking heads.
verdverm · · focus · HN ↗
or itself, the moment it hits some ambiguity it becomes a spaghetti throwing machine, half the time using a single attempt (arbitrarily picks answers with little logic or attention to nuance).
They've been trained to behave in ways that make them run longer, quantity over quality. I suspect this is because the people training them are extreme vine coders. Certainly seems that way by their public statements and harness releases.
I would much prefer if they stopped and asked questions. Mild improvement with markdown engineering...