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  1. wuhhh · · focus · HN ↗
    I don't understand how this is different from oai "structured output" (and whatever the similar paradigm was on Sonnet ~3.7 back then) which everyone moved on from. On their gh they say:

    "Jev is TypeSafe's closed service for runtime-defined semantic decisions. This project reproduces that interface pattern with open models; it does not reproduce Jev's undisclosed model or training"

    As someone else pointed out it isn't actually Jev... can someone enlighten me

    1. petesergeant · · focus · HN ↗
      No idea at all what this particular project called openjev is doing, but <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;TheoLeeCJ&#x2F;openjev" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;TheoLeeCJ&#x2F;openjev and <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ekzhang&#x2F;openjev-sglang" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ekzhang&#x2F;openjev-sglang (neither of which I have any relation to) generate a single token, rather than JSON structured output. I wrote up this technique here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sgnt.ai&#x2F;p&#x2F;jev&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sgnt.ai&#x2F;p&#x2F;jev&#x2F;
      1. wuhhh · · focus · HN ↗
        I came to say thanks for the link to sgnt.ai on Jev, then realised you&#x27;re the author! Well, thank you so much, I feel informed :)
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