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Pre-Greek: The lost language hidden within Ancient Greek

196 points · 74 comments · axiologist

  1. TFNA · · focus · HN ↗
    The title is super-clickbaity, as no Indo-Europeanist working today believes in a single Pre-Greek language; this was the idée fixe of the scholar Robert Beekes well over a decade ago now, and very flawed research as Beekes was succumbing to dementia then. In fact, within the field "Pre-Greek!" has become something of an inside joke.

    The article does eventually mention the current state-of-the-art, but only after perpetuating the misconception for some paragraphs, and that is poor form for a pop-sci article.

    1. kavalg · · focus · HN ↗
      Even for a non-linguist like myself, the article didn't feel right. I expected to find more information about the Thracians, who inhabited those lands for quite some time and left some extraordinary (albeit non-written) heritage.
      1. BigTTYGothGF · · focus · HN ↗
        I thought the Thracians spoke an IE language.
        1. TFNA · · focus · HN ↗
          Recent paper by Kassian in Transactions of the Philological Society makes formidable case that Thracian was not Indo-European.
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