‹ BackHN Continuity

Thread

Qwen 3.8 Omni Flash

346 points · 138 comments · jjcm

  1. andy_ppp · · focus · HN ↗
    Why can the Chinese build models and Europe cannot? The algorithms behind this stuff are not that complicated, are they? Is it the cost of energy? The illegality and difficulty of obtaining all the data in the world? Lack of capital to start moonshot labs? Lack of optimism?

    The Chinese just seem to have an ability to get it done without anywhere near the GPUs of the US and Europe can buy these GPUs.

    I think relying on the US and China for AI is probably not ideal? For example I think Qwen have not released the Omni models as open weights in the past, it’d be good to know if they’re doing this here?

    1. rw2 · · focus · HN ↗
      Great engineering schools and good tech companies to train them post graduation.

      Europe has none;

      The best tech university in Europe when compared to Chinese/US equivalents won't even rank in the top 10.

      1. bitexploder · · focus · HN ↗
        Simpler view for me: this is one of the most capital intense technologies to exist. Europe does not have enough capital to compete. China is building its own chips. It’s own everything. Silicon up. How do you compete with that. Only Google and maybe Aamazon is doing it domestically.
        1. hshdjdjdif · · focus · HN ↗
          Europe has more capital than China, it's just spent on pensions for boomers, refugees and pointless vanity projects
Open on Hacker News to reply ↗

Unofficial Hacker News client; not affiliated with Y Combinator.