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Qwen 3.8 Omni Flash

346 points · 138 comments · jjcm

  1. tolugenius · · focus · HN ↗
    Curious if or when we'll see the Qwen4 series, one thing I love with Qwen is it comes a much larger range of sizes so I can experiment which extremely small llms.
    1. _ache_ · · focus · HN ↗
      I don't think Qwen3.8-Omni-X will ever be released.

      The last one was: Qwen3-Omni-30B-A3B <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;huggingface.co&#x2F;Qwen&#x2F;Qwen3-Omni-30B-A3B-Instruct" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;huggingface.co&#x2F;Qwen&#x2F;Qwen3-Omni-30B-A3B-Instruct

      And maybe Qwen4 won&#x27;t be released, they only release Qwen3.8 27B (and a mostly unusable 125B). There are definitively slowing down open weight release.

      1. Iolaum · · focus · HN ↗
        Why mostly unusable 125b?

        I assume you are talking about qwen3.8-flash-next. Support for it on some places, like llama.cpp, is still wip (depending on configuration) but it looks like a very capable model in it&#x27;s category.

        1. _ache_ · · focus · HN ↗
          Very capable yes but very slow. 27B is relatively easy to run, but the 125b one need around 128Gb of RAM (DDR4 isn&#x27;t enough, you need DDR5 to be quick enough, that&#x27;s $3000 alone, you also need a graphic card). DDR4 is caped @20tps.

          So, the cost of a setup to run Qwen-Flash-Next at +40tks is around $3000. Too much for most people.

          With only a RTX 4090, you will reach 30tps (with DDR5...), not +40tks, and it&#x27;s about the limit to be usable. Oh ! I forget Apple device too, it&#x27;s a good option to run this model I guess, but still slow.

          Yet, as you said, it&#x27;s still a wip implementation, it may improve soon (MTP support is about to be merged in llama.cpp soon).

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