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Qwen 3.8 Omni Flash

346 points · 138 comments · jjcm

  1. andy_ppp · · focus · HN ↗
    Why can the Chinese build models and Europe cannot? The algorithms behind this stuff are not that complicated, are they? Is it the cost of energy? The illegality and difficulty of obtaining all the data in the world? Lack of capital to start moonshot labs? Lack of optimism?

    The Chinese just seem to have an ability to get it done without anywhere near the GPUs of the US and Europe can buy these GPUs.

    I think relying on the US and China for AI is probably not ideal? For example I think Qwen have not released the Omni models as open weights in the past, it’d be good to know if they’re doing this here?

    1. apexalpha · · focus · HN ↗
      The Chinese were directed to it from their government.

      We have no such government with a mandate to do that.

      1. EagnaIonat · · focus · HN ↗
        While there is no official mandate, many countries of the EU are working on models that are government funded.

        The main one (IIRC) is Spains ALIA.

        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;alia.gob.es&#x2F;eng" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;alia.gob.es&#x2F;eng

        There is also OpenEuroLLM and EuroLLM.

        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.openeurollm.eu" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.openeurollm.eu

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