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Bonsai 2 27B: Near-Lossless Compression in a 9x Smaller Footprint

589 points · 200 comments · JonSchneider

  1. miffy900 · · focus · HN ↗
    I really wish people would stop saying N times smaller than something when making a comparison; that makes no sense - it's 1/9th (11.11%) the size. You don't get a smaller quantity by multiplying by a number greater than 1.0. You could instead reverse the subjects being compared - "the original model is 9x bigger than this new smaller, efficient model" or some such. That makes sense.

    I keep seeing this being used when people talk about efficiency or performance gains and it's just very unintuitive language.

    1. stkdump · · focus · HN ↗
      Also, X is 9 times larger than Y and X is 9 times as large as Y are two different statements.
      1. so-cal-schemer · · focus · HN ↗
        to spell it out:

        200% as large as 1 is 2.

        200% larger than 1 is 3..

        1. so-cal-schemer · · focus · HN ↗
          200% (or 2x) smaller than 3 is.. ?
          1. stkdump · · focus · HN ↗
            10% smaller is 3*0.1=0.3 smaller than 3, which is 3-0.3=2.7

            So 200% smaller is 3*2=6 smaller than 3, which is 3-6=-3

            Which is why these kinds of statements usually don't make any sense at all. Usually something can't be more than 100% smaller, at which point it is completely gone.

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