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Bend – a language that blocks AI mistakes via proof and runs on GPUs

616 points · 327 comments · nicolas-siplis

  1. IshKebab · · focus · HN ↗
    Interesting... But I don't think formal software verification is going to be the answer (is that what this is? Kind of unclear.)

    It's too difficult and doesn't scale well to many real world programs - how do you formally verify Facebook?

    We'll probably be stuck with normal testing and at least skimming code for a while.

    1. gr_norm · · focus · HN ↗
      Is EC2 real-world enough? From June:

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;aws.amazon.com&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;compute&#x2F;aws-nitro-isolation-engine-formally-verifying-the-hypervisor-in-the-aws-nitro-system&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;aws.amazon.com&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;compute&#x2F;aws-nitro-isolation-eng...

      And for the PQ parts of Apple&#x27;s crypto libraries, from May:

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;security.apple.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;formal-verification-corecrypto&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;security.apple.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;formal-verification-corecryp...

      Similar from Microsoft, from July:

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;research&#x2F;blog&#x2F;verifying-rust-cryptography-in-symcrypt-from-standards-to-code&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;research&#x2F;blog&#x2F;verifying-rust...

    2. thesmtsolver2 · · focus · HN ↗
      Funny you say that while OpenAI and rest of the world rely on Lean and other formal systems to power through (or sometime brute force) math problems.
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