‹ BackHN Continuity

Thread

Astra for Law

589 points · 689 comments · vertigoruntime

  1. halamadrid · · focus · HN ↗
    The need for actual lawyers will persist I think from my own experience. I attempted drafting a contract with some points myself using AI, but after several edits I wasn't sure if it was correct. Sending it to an actual lawyer ended up in so many corrections I couldn't imagine the first time. One big thing was the overly excessive protective clauses which didn't make sense for reality or conflicted with another.

    Its just like code I suppose, if you can read and understand and validate, you can use it to scale and otherwise it could end up being a vibe effort.

    1. rayiner · · focus · HN ↗
      LLMs are the first genuinely useful legal tech since the Internet. I'm pretty shocked, though, at the delta between how competent Claude is on code versus legal work. It's good for research and data organization, but terrible for drafting. I wonder if this is a structural problem with the lack of feedback loops. In law, there's no compiler to check for logical or continuity errors in your brief, and there's no unit tests to check for correctness or performance.

      Even without that, I think it'll be extremely valuable to clients to allow them to answer simple questions without a lawyer, figure out the lay of the land so they can supervise their counsel, etc.

      1. samtp · · focus · HN ↗
        > LLMs are the first genuinely useful legal tech since the Internet

        That is an incredible statement that could not be further from the truth. Large scale adoption of email, searchable document databases like Westlaw, LexisNexis, PACER, etc.. , OCR Software, electronic signatures, and tons more have had a much more defineably positive impact on the legal profession since the internet came about.

        1. rayiner · · focus · HN ↗
          I think "email" and "westlaw" fairly count as "the Internet." LLMs might be bigger than either of those.
          1. samtp · · focus · HN ↗
            The internet came well before both of those. And none of the example I gave have lead to lawyers regularly being fined in court because of "hallucinations"
        2. alansaber · · focus · HN ↗
          But emphasising "tech" advancements, that really only covers OCR.
Open on Hacker News to reply ↗

Unofficial Hacker News client; not affiliated with Y Combinator.