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Astra for Law

589 points · 689 comments · vertigoruntime

  1. boredumb · · focus · HN ↗
    memes and snark aside, can you use this to create legitimate terms and contracts for my products and if I do who is getting sued when it is wrong?
    1. hackmack10 · · focus · HN ↗
      I already use them for that, they are pretty excellent at it. Much better than the terms of use generator products that used to exist. That said, nobody cares to sue your business for the most part until you're big enough to be worth it. By that time, you'll have a team of legal analyst to assist you... or agents should I say.

      Then again, nobody will have money to buy anything at this rate, so in all liklihood, this is a total non-issue.

    2. dolebirchwood · · focus · HN ↗
      > who is getting sued when it is wrong?

      You. Don't take legal advice from a word calculator.

      1. echelon · · focus · HN ↗
        The business value will be when platforms can underwrite their LLMs' legal products.

        That will be a decacorn product or more.

        1. mcmcmc · · focus · HN ↗
          That or a hydrogen balloon of financial engineering
      2. kingstnap · · focus · HN ↗
        As opposed to taking advice from the glucose wetware?
        1. notahacker · · focus · HN ↗
          The glucose wetware will actually fight your case...
        2. animal_spirits · · focus · HN ↗
          Wetware is a new phrase that both horrifies me and makes me crack up in laughter :)
        3. Ajedi32 · · focus · HN ↗
          Yes, because glucose wetware can be held liable for malpractice if it gives you nonsensical advise.
    3. petcat · · focus · HN ↗
      You will be the one getting sued. It's just a tool.
    4. gr_norm · · focus · HN ↗
      I'd expect they could indemnify you against hallucinations or similar if this gets good enough for that to be a very rare occurrence? Or you could buy insurance on it that's cheaper than hiring a lawyer (not a high bar to clear). I wouldn't rely on it currently, though.
    5. raincole · · focus · HN ↗
      > can you use this to create legitimate terms

      I don't think you can. What I get from this article is that this is not a product they're going to sell to average consumers.

    6. Thaxll · · focus · HN ↗
      Same for SWE when pushing code they don't understand.
      1. alansaber · · focus · HN ↗
        SWE can push to production without going to jail.
    7. reticulates · · focus · HN ↗
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      1. ympb121 · · focus · HN ↗
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    8. charlesdenault · · focus · HN ↗
      You are.
    9. huseyinkeles · · focus · HN ↗
      when you shoot someone with a gun, who gets sued? you? or the gun manufacturer?
      1. boredumb · · focus · HN ↗
        What happens if the gun is faulty and explodes killing the guy next to me and the family wants compensation?
    10. binlog · · focus · HN ↗
      The product isn’t meant for you or me it is for lawyers. If you can’t take on personal liability for a badly written contract then you shouldn’t be using it.
    11. epolanski · · focus · HN ↗
      You can create terms and contracts even if you&#x27;re a 7 year old with no AI.

      And yes, even contracts drafted for millions of $ have oversights and unlawful or unenforceable terms.

    12. dboreham · · focus · HN ↗
      You thought you could sue your lawyer when a contract they drafted turns out to not mean what you thought it meant?
      1. boredumb · · focus · HN ↗
        In the US at least if a lawyer screws up a contract beyond what a competent lawyer would and causes financial harm they can be sued.
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