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  1. kragen · · focus · HN ↗
    This doesn't seem like a well-thought-out post. I mean, I probably could have told you that from the fact that it's either pro-AI or anti-AI (in this case the latter), but this is a particularly poorly thought out post. Others here have pointed out the water-wasting red herring, but there are several other pieces of nonsense here — the general environmental doom-mongering, and labeling recursive self-improvement as "mystical", for example.

    Me, I pointed Claude Opus 5 at a C codebase I've been working on for years and it immediately found five serious bugs and told me how to fix them, as well as how to use Linux system calls I wasn't familiar with to solve some other problems. And I gave it a new language for PEGs I'd written up a couple of years ago, and it wrote me a working implementation in OCaml that afternoon, fixing several bugs in my example grammars along the way and resolving a conceptual problem I'd had a roadblock on. I asked Fable 5.1 to implement a minimal proof assistant, and it wrote a clone of J-Bob in Python, which I'm studying now. Although there is a certain firehose quality to this stuff, I sure don't intend to use AI to actively de-skill my brain.

    That doesn't guarantee that AI will be a beneficial innovation overall, of course! As with most innovations, it probably depends on the balance between people being able to use the innovation to gain control over their own lives, and people being able to use it to gain control over others' lives. (Barring a FOOM scenario, of course, where our prediction ability is nonexistent.)

    So, I don't think a pro-AI post can be well thought out, either. It's too early and chaotic to understand what's going to happen, and it may actually be uncertain. Pro and anti are both far too simplistic.

    1. puchatek · · focus · HN ↗
      Water-wasting is not a red herring if you live in an area where droughts are an issue. It just isn't a problem everywhere universally.
      1. simonw · · focus · HN ↗
        Like golf courses in the desert.

        (... Palm Springs has around 100 golf courses)

        1. kragen · · focus · HN ↗
          While we&#x27;re talking about Americans using anything but the metric system (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49746745">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49746745), how many golf courses&#x27; worth of water is Google&#x27;s 10.9 billion &quot;gallons&quot; a year?
          1. zahlman · · focus · HN ↗
            ChatGPT tells me

            &gt; As a historical U.S. benchmark, an average 18-hole facility had about 80.7 irrigated turf acres and used approximately 152.5 acre-feet&#x2F;year—about 49.7 million gallons (188 million litres) annually.

            So about 220.

            But it&#x27;s still, ahem, a drop in the bucket compared to the California almond industry.

            1. simonw · · focus · HN ↗
              A while back I satirically suggested <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;simonwillison.net&#x2F;2026&#x2F;Jul&#x2F;17&#x2F;spot-birds-not-golf&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;simonwillison.net&#x2F;2026&#x2F;Jul&#x2F;17&#x2F;spot-birds-not-golf&#x2F; that if hyperscalers wanted to relieve the pressure over data center water use they could buy up a few dozen country clubs and turn them into public parks.

              (I was only half joking)

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