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1. iamnothere · 1789670495 · focus · HN ↗

   RMS was correct, as usual. Of course he could not have predicted the additional 1 million deaths due to military action (and estimated 3.5 million more from subsequent effects) in the resulting Middle Eastern/Central Asian conflicts over the following years.

   1. boxed · 1789670795 · focus · HN ↗

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      1. toyg · 1789671675 · focus · HN ↗

         I'm sorry, since when George W. Bush and Donald Trump are "Western liberals"? Western, sure - liberals, the fuck.

         1. UncleSlacky · 1789673041 · focus · HN ↗

            From <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Liberalism" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Liberalism :

            &quot;Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property, and equality before the law.&quot;

            Technically both major parties in the US are liberal parties, it&#x27;s a &quot;liberal democracy&quot; where they both share a certain set of beliefs, though they may differ on the details. Only in the US is the word used as a slur by one party towards the other.

            1. iamnothere · 1789674236 · focus · HN ↗

               Thank you, good to see someone who actually knows what the word means.

               Sibling comment is correct too, the term has been misused and muddied in the US since the 1930s, and it no longer has a coherent meaning here. (If you mean “Democrats” then just use that term.)

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