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Vinix – A modern operating system written in V

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  1. novacrazy · · focus · HN ↗
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    1. ecto · · focus · HN ↗
      How can a language be a scam?
      1. novacrazy · · focus · HN ↗
        The first release was just Go's parser ripped out and bolted onto a barebones first year of college level compiler, and touted as "safer than Rust", "compiles in milliseconds", etc. but didn't even have real type-checking at the time, nor did it free memory, and many other basic functionality. Furthermore, I vividly remember the author's Patreon advertised at the top of the page back then, and for a while he raked in a couple thousand dollars a month for it.

        However, over the years some actually talented people (and nowadays probably LLMs) have somehow sort of fixed most of the biggest warts, but it's still nowhere near what it advertised in that first release.

        1. torstenvl · · focus · HN ↗
          Can you explain what you mean by this? They haven't had a first release yet. They're still in beta.
          1. novacrazy · · focus · HN ↗
            That's being pedantic. The first public announcement was many years ago.
            1. torstenvl · · focus · HN ↗
              It appears you're calling something a scam because an early alpha version was early alpha quality. If so, that would be unprofessional and inflammatory.

              I'm open to being wrong. So again, can you explain what you mean?

              1. wk_end · · focus · HN ↗
                If I go to the vlang releases page, I see literally hundreds of releases <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;vlang&#x2F;v&#x2F;releases" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;vlang&#x2F;v&#x2F;releases

                They haven&#x27;t had a stable 1.0 release yet, but they&#x27;ve had many pre-1.0 releases. It&#x27;s not some personal experiment that&#x27;s been sitting in the dev&#x27;s Github that people are piling onto; the author has gone out of their way to promote it, beg for donations, and lash out at any criticisms.

                The issue has never been the quality of the language per se, the issue has been 1) wildly misrepresenting the quality of the language in the present tense; 2) not even having any kind of a realistic roadmap towards achieving the kind of outsized and implausible claims about the quality of the language; and 3) using these outsized, implausible misrepresentations as a way of soliciting hype and funding for the author.

                1. iamnothere · · focus · HN ↗
                  For a long time they did weekly releases, which explains the “hundreds” of releases. It looks like they have made enough progress to move to periodic point releases. (I should probably take another look at it.)

                  I’m not qualified to judge the language as a whole, at least until I use it for something, but it does have some interesting features. I used to follow their progress, but it’s clear that the pace of development is very slow, like many other niche langs.

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