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Vinix – A modern operating system written in V

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  1. novacrazy · · focus · HN ↗
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    1. ecto · · focus · HN ↗
      How can a language be a scam?
      1. novacrazy · · focus · HN ↗
        The first release was just Go's parser ripped out and bolted onto a barebones first year of college level compiler, and touted as "safer than Rust", "compiles in milliseconds", etc. but didn't even have real type-checking at the time, nor did it free memory, and many other basic functionality. Furthermore, I vividly remember the author's Patreon advertised at the top of the page back then, and for a while he raked in a couple thousand dollars a month for it.

        However, over the years some actually talented people (and nowadays probably LLMs) have somehow sort of fixed most of the biggest warts, but it's still nowhere near what it advertised in that first release.

        1. torstenvl · · focus · HN ↗
          Can you explain what you mean by this? They haven't had a first release yet. They're still in beta.
          1. novacrazy · · focus · HN ↗
            That's being pedantic. The first public announcement was many years ago.
            1. torstenvl · · focus · HN ↗
              It appears you're calling something a scam because an early alpha version was early alpha quality. If so, that would be unprofessional and inflammatory.

              I'm open to being wrong. So again, can you explain what you mean?

              1. jchw · · focus · HN ↗
                The scammy part was definitely making all of the claims as if they were already true. A lot of people sincerely believed it. My recollection was that it took months before some of this was fixed to explain that it wasn't available yet, and then more to explain that it hadn't actually been done yet.

                There were some really crazy ones, like that it could convert entire codebases from C++ to V and then compile them some multiple of times faster and make them memory safe. How? I'd love to know.

                The author to me seems like they are not attempting to scam people, but it's hard to ignore that they were collecting money, from people who thought they had already accomplished these things, because the person collecting it absolutely appeared to be claiming it.

                Now doing that once and going "oops, my bad" would be one thing. There would be no controversy. However, over time it has proven to be a bit of a behavior pattern, which is confusing because the author does appear to be producing things that I think are interesting. Just... often buried under some hyperbole.

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