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1. pcestrada · 1789660165 · focus · HN ↗

   OpenAI and Anthropic should be nationalized. I find it difficult to trust Sam Altman or Dario Amodei.

   1. indymike · 1789661081 · focus · HN ↗

      I find it even harder to trust elected leaders from any party. At least Sam and Dario are aligned with a value set that is understood and clear, whereas political leaders values changes as do the polls their livelihood depends on changes.

      1. MattGrommes · 1789663930 · focus · HN ↗

         Admittedly I haven't thought this through incredibly deeply but what if "nationalize" just means the US government owns half of the company? Then we get profits as recompense for building the company on our shared culture but there's still a profit motive for employees and a check on the direction of the company in the same way VCs have. But without necessarily turning the company into some red-tape bound bureaucracy.

         1. ceejayoz · 1789664917 · focus · HN ↗

            Trump's been doing that.

            <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pbs.org&#x2F;newshour&#x2F;politics&#x2F;what-economic-and-policy-experts-think-about-the-u-s-governments-stake-in-intel" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pbs.org&#x2F;newshour&#x2F;politics&#x2F;what-economic-and-poli...

            &gt; Then, in August, Trump called for Intel&#x27;s beleaguered CEO Lip-Bu Tan to resign, alleging ties to China. Days later, after Tan met with Trump, the president called him a &quot;success,&quot; before announcing that the federal government had bought a stake in the company.

            Somehow, this isn&#x27;t derided by the right as socialism.

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