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1. pcestrada · 1789660165 · focus · HN ↗

   OpenAI and Anthropic should be nationalized. I find it difficult to trust Sam Altman or Dario Amodei.

   1. indymike · 1789661081 · focus · HN ↗

      I find it even harder to trust elected leaders from any party. At least Sam and Dario are aligned with a value set that is understood and clear, whereas political leaders values changes as do the polls their livelihood depends on changes.

      1. swatcoder · 1789661903 · focus · HN ↗

         > At least Sam and Dario are aligned with a value set that is understood and clear

         What value set do you perceive that to be, and why would you take your perception of it to be any more sound than it would be with a politician?

         It's not like someone can operate companies of that scale, especially startups, through earnestness and openness. Like national politics, their job is fundamentally about perception management and power brokering across dynamic windows of opportunity. Nothing they say or do can be taken at face value, and you can't reduce their incentives to either company or personal profit in any particular form over any particular time scale.

         1. pixl97 · 1789662175 · focus · HN ↗

            >What value set do you perceive that to be

            A meat based paperclip maximizer.

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