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1. jmatthews · 1789654895 · focus · HN ↗

   Without commenting on the EU, particularly, I would be concerned if I were a Canadian about Carney's commitment to globalism when the degenerate cases have become so common.

   It's a weird two-front war where people tend to answer the social question and ignore the economic one, but the economic question has not done any favors to the EU or the US for that matter

   1. mostly_harmless · 1789655175 · focus · HN ↗

      what does that mean? People should never have friends because some people are jerks?

      Self-isolation (whether a nation or a person) is not a good solution to hypothetical bad actors. Society is built on cooperation and trust

   2. garbawarb · 1789655304 · focus · HN ↗

      Can you share some of these degenerate cases?

      1. watwut · 1789655460 · focus · HN ↗

         Well, AfD winning elections, Hungary just getting rid of Orban, Slovakia being at risk, you know in general Trump like parties but in Europe.

         Ah, no who am I kidding. These usually worry about the opposite. What if EU manages to resist to those projects and remains liberal democracies?

         1. mordae · 1789657203 · focus · HN ↗

            Czechia electing Babis who invited nazis into coalition...

            But I don't think you can just elect Hitler in every nation and then get them to cooperate. They will inevitably want more and when they do they become aggressive. At which point I guess people will reconsider.

            Smells like a long-term attempt to break the EU from within TBH.

   3. garbawarb · 1789655304 · focus · HN ↗

      Can you share some of these degenerate cases?
   4. andsoitis · 1789655356 · focus · HN ↗

      > It's a weird two-front war

      Who are the adversaries?

   5. Arodex · 1789655484 · focus · HN ↗

      You call it globalism, when it is in practice having good trade relations.

      And the opposite case is also a quick way to degenerate cases: if Canada devalued cooperation, what is the argument for provinces to not do the same? And thus it would only fuel Quebec and Alberta separatism.

      You already see it with Brexit which is clearly opening further "us-vs-them" outlooks in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

   6. hedora · 1789656974 · focus · HN ↗

      Your argument is that some vague hypothetical bad thing could happen to Canada if they diversified their trade partners, so they should just accept economic terrorism from DC and not attempt to support the parts of their economy that already rely on imports/exports?

      That is a strange take.

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