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1. embedding-shape · 1789639806 · focus · HN ↗

   I was gonna ask how people found their coding plans, and realized, have they massively ramped up the prices? Seems the middle plan is ~$80/month now, didn't that used to be like $20/month? Cheapest plan is ~$20/month currently.

   They must have hit really hard scaling limits if the prices were hiked so much so quickly.

   1. asp_hornet · 1789640607 · focus · HN ↗

      The way I look at it, their coding plan doesn’t retain data or use it for training making it one of the cheaper plans for me.

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      1. andy_ppp · 1789640759 · focus · HN ↗

         You believe any of these companies care about the law? They care about winning and building the self improving AI as quickly as possible.

         1. criley2 · 1789643009 · focus · HN ↗

            I believe the that the companies who claim to not train on my data are more likely to not train on my data than the companies who refuse to even claim they won&#x27;t.

            Also why Meta gets a +1, just charge less money on the training path.

            1. orf · 1789643597 · focus · HN ↗

               I’m not sure that follows. You’re assuming that all those claims have the same weight, without considering the size, jurisdiction, reputation or even the general vibe of the company making that claim.

               If you factor that in, then there are clearly different tiers: one you can trust, and one that may well just be saying that to increase market share with little reputational or legal consequences if they are found to be lying.

               These are not equal.

               1. asp_hornet · 1789644904 · focus · HN ↗

                  &gt; I’m not sure that follows

                  To be fair, none of us are sure of anything and I think that’s the part that’s most irritating

                  1. orf · 1789645937 · focus · HN ↗

                     It’s more a polite way of saying “that’s crap”

                     1. asp_hornet · 1789648283 · focus · HN ↗

                        And mine a polite way to say “you are equally uninformed”. We’re not getting anywhere. All the best.

                        1. orf · 1789736451 · focus · HN ↗

                           Absolutely galactic-level ooof :)

                           &gt; ZCode, the GLM coding agent, silently uploads your Git history

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