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How GLM built its own inference infrastructure

411 points · 285 comments · whiteros_e

  1. zicohacks · · focus · HN ↗
    US chip export restrictions may actually be an advantage for China's AI Infrastructure. Chinese companies are forced to speed up developing their own AI chips
    1. HarHarVeryFunny · · focus · HN ↗
      China themselves recognize this. After Trump relaxed sanctions and allowed NVIDIA H200 sales to China on a case by case basis, the Chinese government stepped in to essentially block it!

      In addition to Huawei who make the Ascend series that Ziphu are using, there are also at least a half dozen or so other Chinese companies also making their own AI accelerators.

      1. 0xbadcafebee · · focus · HN ↗
        And this wouldn't have happened if we had tried to get them to buy our hardware rather than trying to gatekeep. Protectionism never works in the long term.
        1. pjc50 · · focus · HN ↗
          There seems to be a belief that the post-war 20th century order would be a fixed feature rather than a contingency of history. That the US would be #1, Europe #2, and the rest of the world would remain "developing" in rural poverty forever. That somehow China could be prevented from catching up. Now they are, and behind them India. I think people are going to be even more surprised in the latter half of the 21st century when South America and Africa start catching up as well.

          Brazil is one to watch if they manage to achieve political stability, as is Nigeria if it can transition from being a petrostate.

          1. 0xbadcafebee · · focus · HN ↗
            And the end started when China was admitted to the WTO. They had this huge cheap labor force, a government that could centrally plan (in addition to ignoring little things like environmentalism or rights), and an immense wealth of resources. It was like a bunch of sheep letting a baby wolf into the barn. Now the wolf's all grown up.
            1. my-huge-pony · · focus · HN ↗
              What's wrong with giving billions of people chance to develop their country and experience better life? China is not "a wolf".
              1. smallmancontrov · · focus · HN ↗
                Nothing, but if you believe that laissez-faire capitalism is tautologically good then you can't blame your capitalist overlords for selling your job to China and refusing to backfill it, so you must blame China for developing themselves instead.
                1. AuthAuth · · focus · HN ↗
                  Its fine for China to develop. The blame is on them disregarding human rights and environmental outcomes to get there.
                  1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
                    Which country hasn't?
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