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One year of sponsored Servo development

358 points · 144 comments · AshleysBrain

  1. p-e-w · · focus · HN ↗
    What can one actually do with Servo today?

    It’s apparently still not ready to be used as a browser engine (and may never be), so what exactly is it for?

    1. foresterre · · focus · HN ↗
      Regardless of actual use as an (embedded) browser, it is useful in the sense that it can be used to provide (another) source of validation about whether specs and WPT [1] tests are properly and clearly defined. That helps for long term browser compatibility.

      [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wpt.fyi&#x2F;results&#x2F;?label=experimental&amp;label=master&amp;product=servo&amp;aligned" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wpt.fyi&#x2F;results&#x2F;?label=experimental&amp;label=master&amp;pro...

      1. charcircuit · · focus · HN ↗
        &gt;long term browser compatibility

        Making a new browser engine hurts browser compatibility more than it helps it. It now becomes one more target that needs to be tested against, limitations need to be kept tracked of, etc. The best thing for long term browser compatibility is focusing resources into Blink. In regards to the standard we can use LLMs to cross reference the spec, with tests, and with the implementation to make sure all match.

        1. latexr · · focus · HN ↗
          &gt; The best thing for long term browser compatibility is focusing resources into Blink.

          That’s what makes Google more dominant, and if you think that’s a good idea you should really put down your LLM and go read up on a bit of history. Do you want to live in a world where a single company controls your access to the web? Are you eager to navigate through ad pages with a little bit of web? To have even more of your data mined?

          Browser diversity may be a bit annoying for developers, but it is good for users, and developers are users too. When there’s a lack of diversity, everyone but the dominant player is squeezed.

          1. charcircuit · · focus · HN ↗
            Google&#x27;s dominance comes from market share not from owning upstream. If a different fork took 90% market share that fork would have the dominance and power.
            1. samus · · focus · HN ↗
              And that market share is maintained by integration with Android and low-key sabotage of others browsers, especially Firefox. Similar to how Microsoft maintained its monopoly decades ago.
              1. charcircuit · · focus · HN ↗
                Whether a new browser uses a brand new engine or not that doesn&#x27;t stop Chrome being integrated with Android.
                1. samus · · focus · HN ↗
                  The argument was not about stopping Chrome from becoming integrated into Android.
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