I really wish a patron would step up and sponsor this project. Not just by money, but also by plugging it in their browser-carrying products. Maybe Hauwei of Samgsung; they now sling a browser derived of another for-profit --usually competitor-- company's browser.
So right now Servo is funded by the community, and this is no good because why? Instead you propose that this project should be funded by a for-profit company with it's own objectives in this world (that often starts with "more money"), again leading me to ask why?
The setup right now seems to give enough people enough time to work on it to move forward, why on earth would you want to involve companies infamous for their shit software quality, like Samsung?
Probably because broad adoption would help making it a real option to use in the near future?
So sure, Samsung would bundle it with their usual crap, but if it helps making the engine more mature, great, but I also don't see why they would in the first place.
Their performance is not great comoared to the competition and their market share is at 3.7% and falling. The only thing that keeps me there, is ublock origin. The moment ladybird or a a servo base browser becomes an option I switch.
And if FF also starts to restrict UO, I just go to chrome then. I assume many think like me.
Firefox is acceptable, but it's definitely not what it used to be. I've long stopped expecting any positive user- visible change in Firefox updates.
In fairness, while there was definitely Mozilla mismanagement, there was also a massive monopolistic marketing/bundling campaign by Chrome. Google search and other properties pushed Chrome, Google paid application publishers to bundle Chrome the way they bundled adware, and so on.
> So right now Servo is funded by the community, and this is no good because why?
Because look at Mozilla... You need to get the browser in front of people. A browser that works on the real web, is such a huge project, you cannot do it as a hobby community-funded project for ever. You need user-share-%.
Samsung can put it in front of Samsung appliance users.
> Instead you propose that this project should be funded by a for-profit company with it's own objectives in this world (that often starts with "more money"), again leading me to ask why?
You understand that Mozilla Firefox is not funded by the "community" and is completely funded by Google's money. Even donating does not fund the browser.
Mozilla knows that the open source "community" has no money, and cannot replace the amount of money Google is paying them and the employees who work on the browser.
The question is are you ready to fill the $600M a year black hole for Google to NOT pay Mozilla to fund Firefox?
It only makes sense for Servo to get funding from for-profit companies at this point, which is one of the only ways open source can work.
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The setup right now seems to give enough people enough time to work on it to move forward, why on earth would you want to involve companies infamous for their shit software quality, like Samsung?
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So sure, Samsung would bundle it with their usual crap, but if it helps making the engine more mature, great, but I also don't see why they would in the first place.
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The same would occur again.
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And if FF also starts to restrict UO, I just go to chrome then. I assume many think like me.
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That folks want to take it further is admirable. But doubtful Mozilla could have afforded to with their existing commitments.
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Because look at Mozilla... You need to get the browser in front of people. A browser that works on the real web, is such a huge project, you cannot do it as a hobby community-funded project for ever. You need user-share-%.
Samsung can put it in front of Samsung appliance users.
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You understand that Mozilla Firefox is not funded by the "community" and is completely funded by Google's money. Even donating does not fund the browser.
Mozilla knows that the open source "community" has no money, and cannot replace the amount of money Google is paying them and the employees who work on the browser.
The question is are you ready to fill the $600M a year black hole for Google to NOT pay Mozilla to fund Firefox?
It only makes sense for Servo to get funding from for-profit companies at this point, which is one of the only ways open source can work.