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Weeping whales: Stillborn humpback whale grieving documented

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  1. georgemcbay · · focus · HN ↗
    Blows my mind that so many people just have this hardened internalized idea that we're somehow significantly different than any other animal.

    Sure, we've got them beat on language and planning, but we're currently in the process of being passed up on both those fronts by multi-dimensional arrays of floating point numbers sitting inside of sand. So, like, how special is that then, really?

    1. card_zero · · focus · HN ↗
      Do LLMs grieve?
      1. georgemcbay · · focus · HN ↗
        Nope.

        They can pretend to, of course, and use the language of grief, but if you can't feel the cold bottomless pit that has bored through your gut then you aren't really grieving.

        1. card_zero · · focus · HN ↗
          Do whales grieve?
          1. stackghost · · focus · HN ↗
            They exhibit behaviours that seem to defy alternative explanations, though I doubt anyone could say for certain whether they do or don’t
            1. jibal · · focus · HN ↗
              > They exhibit behaviours that seem to defy alternative explanations

              No, they really don't. The article says

              > indicated an inherent, strong maternal attachment to the calf

              Yeah, that's not grieving.

              1. stackghost · · focus · HN ↗
                What if I told you that marine biology is a large and rigorous field that is not fully encapsulated by TFA?
                1. jibal · · focus · HN ↗

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