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Weeping whales: Stillborn humpback whale grieving documented

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  1. georgemcbay · · focus · HN ↗
    Blows my mind that so many people just have this hardened internalized idea that we're somehow significantly different than any other animal.

    Sure, we've got them beat on language and planning, but we're currently in the process of being passed up on both those fronts by multi-dimensional arrays of floating point numbers sitting inside of sand. So, like, how special is that then, really?

    1. card_zero · · focus · HN ↗
      Do LLMs grieve?
      1. georgemcbay · · focus · HN ↗
        Nope.

        They can pretend to, of course, and use the language of grief, but if you can't feel the cold bottomless pit that has bored through your gut then you aren't really grieving.

        1. card_zero · · focus · HN ↗
          Do whales grieve?
          1. stackghost · · focus · HN ↗
            They exhibit behaviours that seem to defy alternative explanations, though I doubt anyone could say for certain whether they do or don’t
            1. madaxe_again · · focus · HN ↗
              Indeed. The same goes for widows at funerals. I mean, has anyone ever dissected the brain of a grieving human and said “aha hah! Here it is!! The grief!”
              1. card_zero · · focus · HN ↗
                No, of course I haven't been doing that, and it's going to be a while before I would have collected a representative sample anyway, if I had been.
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