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Backups Aren't Simple

359 points · 225 comments · afilipovski

  1. publlus_enigma · · focus · HN ↗
    There are four times in my life I have suffered regrettable data loss incidents.

    The first was when the telephone pole outside our house was struck directly by lightning. Not only was it the loudest thing I have ever heard, the current surged through the telephone line, into the internal fax modem, and fries everything within its vicinity. I was 10. I did have backuos, but only only floppy and they didn't cover everything.

    The second was storing data in OneDrive - a change to their terms surrounding "lifetime" unlikely noted storage, combined with a client that was unusably slow to download and a deadline for data retrieval meant that I lost most of my files.

    The third was SD card failure in digital camera on holiday, the controller chip died catastrophically, leaving the card completely unrecognised. It was a brand new Sony 128GB card, manufactured by Toshiba, and it seemed to be a common issue. I now shoot to two cards simultaneously.

    And the fourth time was ... Performing a backup. An errant script deleted the source content, but I'd also deleted the existing backup to free up space for the new backup. I've been weary of using rewritable media for some time now as a consequence, but I think backups themselves are high risk activities.

    1. dsego · · focus · HN ↗
      For digital media we really need a good stable archival storage solution. Nothing on the market right now for ordinary people.
      1. torton · · focus · HN ↗
        There's plenty of backup services and cloud solutions. The article mentions Borg and Restic, others like Backblaze are more consumer friendly. Which needs do you have that aren't met by any of these tools?
        1. BetterThanSober · · focus · HN ↗
          > backup services and cloud solutions

          online backup should not be your primary method of backup, you're one billing, identity theft, financial issue, or health issue away from getting your backup nuked

          do you have PBS clout? if not good luck <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;information-technology&#x2F;2026&#x2F;08&#x2F;pbs-station-fears-losing-50tb-of-data-after-being-ghosted-by-cloud-storage-provider&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;information-technology&#x2F;2026&#x2F;08&#x2F;pbs-s...

          1. Gigachad · · focus · HN ↗
            Online only is fine as an actual backup, presuming you have the primary in your control.

            It shouldn’t be the only copy of the data that exists.

          2. mrngld · · focus · HN ↗
            PBS&#x27;s situation is entirely PBS fault. If you&#x27;ve got 50TB of data to backup it&#x27;s either worth $300 to $400 a month to you to do it properly with a reputable vendor along with on-site storage, or ... just accept you&#x27;ll lose it.

            It was such a tremendously silly decision I almost wonder if it wasn&#x27;t a politically motivated decision. Maybe the provider that went under had some relative DEI points versus Backblaze or AWS. Just bizarre.

            But I wouldn&#x27;t extrapolate anything out from their situation.

        2. GTP · · focus · HN ↗
          I&#x27;m using Backblaze, but as a Kopia repository.
        3. dsego · · focus · HN ↗
          Backups are not archival storage. If you stop paying for service, say goodbye to your data.
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