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1. thehamkercat · 1789591868 · focus · HN ↗

   This is crazy, but sadly anthropic/openai will never do this, what has happened to this world, where chinese companies are more open than US or even EU companies

   1. medlazik · 1789593493 · focus · HN ↗

      Neoliberalism, that famously open and transparent economic ideology

      1. atemerev · 1789621714 · focus · HN ↗

         Ah, one Donald Trump, a famous neoliberal.

         1. stymaar · 1789636083 · focus · HN ↗

            Were Sam Altman and Dario Amodei different men before Trump was in charge?

            1. brookst · 1789647027 · focus · HN ↗

               To some degree, sure. Remember “open” AI?

               I don’t think Trump changed them, but Trump is absolutely a symptom of larger social collapse in the US, and that collapse has affected Altman and Amodei. We’re not even pretending that truth matters or that the wealthy can ever suffer consequences, and those two seem quite liberated by that.

               1. stymaar · 1789651601 · focus · HN ↗

                  > To some degree, sure. Remember “open” AI?

                  Was OpenAI open in any way under Biden Two years ago?

                  1. brookst · 1789651744 · focus · HN ↗

                     Did you miss the part where I literally said, and I quote “I don’t think Trump changed them”?

                     1. EMIRELADERO · 1789660586 · focus · HN ↗

                        The closedness was always the plan.

                        "As we get closer to building AI, it will make sense to start being less open. The Open in OpenAI means that everyone should benefit from the fruits of AI after its built, but it's totally OK to not share the science (even though sharing everything is definitely the right strategy in the short and possibly medium term for recruitment purposes)."

                        -Ilya Sutskever (email to Elon musk and Sam Altman, 2016)

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