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1. kreidema · 1789572129 · focus · HN ↗

   Do I understand correctly that your service works as a registered device into my whatsapp account with full "admin" like access? This seems a bit harsh for the sensitive data that peoples wahatsapp contain? Or am I missing a usecase here where that is unproblematic? Business accounts maybe?

   1. asteroidburger · 1789572287 · focus · HN ↗

      Businesses should be using WhatsApp business accounts. They cost money per message sent and don’t support groups, but it’s the officially sanctioned way to do it.

      1. fabian_shipamax · 1789572410 · focus · HN ↗

         Businesses can use the official API which is costly and takes time to set up. Correct.
   2. fabian_shipamax · 1789572462 · focus · HN ↗

      Not quite sure what you mean with admin access. There no such concept. But you can basically do anything a user can do - but via MCP.

      1. blueplanet200 · 1789574177 · focus · HN ↗

         Exactly. OP meant that it has permission to do anything, hence "admin".
2. LawrenceKerr · 1789572140 · focus · HN ↗

   Does this require a Meta / WhatsApp business account?

   If not, is this a solution using WhatsApp Web in the backend (like Baileys does)? If this is the case, how does your solution avoid getting blocked or banned? I used Baileys once in an MVP with only 7 users, and my agent got blocked really quickly after just a few days of using it. So I guess the official path is the only way to go?

   1. fabian_shipamax · 1789572259 · focus · HN ↗

      No it doesn’t.

      1. fabian_shipamax · 1789572367 · focus · HN ↗

         If you use it for personal and not excessively you won’t get banned is my experience. You if you start messaging new contacts on a large scale you probably will.

         1. thomasjeff1 · 1789574120 · focus · HN ↗

            That is normal when you lose your contacts and do an external backup. WhatsApp thinks I am texting large number of strangers whereas I already know those contacts. Happened to me. Lost access to WhatsApp.
3. lordgrenville · 1789572450 · focus · HN ↗

   Am I correct in guessing that this is a ToS violation and could lead to getting blocked?

   1. fabian_shipamax · 1789572676 · focus · HN ↗

      You are right that this is a consideration and risk. But it can make your life much easier. The reality is that these tool are available now. This is in fact not the first one like this. It can make the work of small businesses or clubs more more efficient.

      1. dpoloncsak · 1789573651 · focus · HN ↗

         ...with the risk of getting banned, you can't reasonably use this for anything 'important'.

         In order to make my life easier, it probably needs to be doing important stuff.

         You can't hide behind 'other apps are doing it too', if my 'important business account' or whatever gets banned from using your tool, I'd be upset at you.

   2. gcgbarbosa · 1789574098 · focus · HN ↗

      This is ToS violation for sure. OP will soon receive a letter from Zuck's lawyers
4. TZubiri · 1789572825 · focus · HN ↗

   Breaks ToS

   Will be used to spam

   1. liotier · 1789573354 · focus · HN ↗

      Any opening of proprietary chat to useful tools will be used for spam too. It is a curse.

      1. TZubiri · 1789579832 · focus · HN ↗

         might be orthogonal to whether it's proprietary or Free Software in theory (although correlated in practice), couldn't a communication software be Open Source and free licensed BUT ask that users only use the software in a manual fashion and never automated?

         A harder version of the clause, that only a specific interface be used, might be contrary to Free Software howeer, as it would infringe in the right to modify (the interface), but not the right to study the software.

5. lbrito · 1789573254 · focus · HN ↗

   Are people really this nonchalant about giving away their private whatsapp conversations to the likes of Anthropic and Openai?

   1. dpoloncsak · 1789573362 · focus · HN ↗

      This can be used locally, no?

      1. testycool · 1789573467 · focus · HN ↗

         And you typically use them for business, not on private accounts.

         1. lbrito · 1789574354 · focus · HN ↗

            Most of the use cases in the page are personal, like Family Group, Sports Group and so on.

            "Pick members and send them a personal direct message".

      2. fabian_shipamax · 1789573600 · focus · HN ↗

         It’s a cloud product

         1. dpoloncsak · 1789574209 · focus · HN ↗

            Sorry, I may has misphrased what I meant. Can I use this with a local model? Or is it locked to Claude
   2. robertclaus · 1789573927 · focus · HN ↗

      I'm much more concerned about the odds that this tool is vibe coded and will leak the conversations everywhere other than the LLM agent I've already vetted.
   3. addag · 1789574273 · focus · HN ↗

      Oh gosh, if only it was just the whatsapp chats...
6. Gattopardo · 1789573456 · focus · HN ↗

   Show HN: some slop piece of shit that no one should touch unless they want bad things to happen to their data or account
7. monononon34 · 1789574078 · focus · HN ↗

   it looks like a dangerous. i can't trust the LLM

   1. monononon34 · 1789574187 · focus · HN ↗

      does it have any security system?
8. catidegla · 1789574142 · focus · HN ↗

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9. cute_boi · 1789574152 · focus · HN ↗

   how is this different than <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;WhiskeySockets&#x2F;Baileys" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;WhiskeySockets&#x2F;Baileys which seems more reliable?
10. yablak · 1789574396 · focus · HN ↗

    Looked into this a while back. WhatsApp MCP servers attach as a second device to WhatsApp and pull down your message history.

    Most of the ones I&#x27;ve seen on github do not store the messages encrypted locally.

    When evaluating these tools, check to see what they store unencrypted on disk. A quick search shows that only one seems to check the boxes:

    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;adelaidasofia&#x2F;whatsapp-mcp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;adelaidasofia&#x2F;whatsapp-mcp

    However I haven&#x27;t tested it. And it does phone home, you may want to disable that before running it.

    1. fabian_shipamax · 1789980512 · focus · HN ↗

       You don’t have to store messages. It’s a feature to make the UI and MCP more powy.
11. KellyCriterion · 1789575074 · focus · HN ↗

    Take a look at www.superchat.de, they are doing something similar for B2B
12. nom · 1789575329 · focus · HN ↗

    Using this will get your WhatsApp account banned sooner or later.
13. lucenacloud · 1789579864 · focus · HN ↗

    nice! i will try it out! amazing!
14. wisdomajokuu · 1789582649 · focus · HN ↗

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15. LeadTriageKit · 1789846485 · focus · HN ↗

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