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The DeepMind Institute

186 points · 76 comments · vertigoruntime

  1. nsagent · · focus · HN ↗
    They are simply looking to steer AI policy discussions. It's basically an in-house think tank. It has all the trappings, especially with ominous prognostications like:

      Today’s AI systems have impressive capabilities and the rapid pace of innovation suggests we’re now approaching artificial general intelligence (AGI), a system that exhibits all the cognitive capabilities of the human brain.
    
    Not sure we are anywhere close to all the cognitive capabilities of the human brain... not even a severely lobotomized one.
    1. pixl97 · · focus · HN ↗
      Exactly how many cognitive capabilities are needed before it becomes a problem?
      1. verdverm · · focus · HN ↗
        Just one, the ability to use language, it's causing all sorts of problems for us because we evolved to recognize other humans as the only ones having this capability.

        Ai separated humans from language, like the writing did for memory and the printing press for knowledge distribution.

        "AI does to us what American Cheese did to food" by Opus 23

        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=1CbmC2aWhjY" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=1CbmC2aWhjY

        (still the best Ai video I have seen, also a work of art)

        1. ozgrakkurt · · focus · HN ↗
          &gt; like the writing did for memory and the printing press for knowledge distribution

          This blob of text seems to mean nothing

          1. verdverm · · focus · HN ↗
            What happened to the knowledge in the elder&#x27;s mind when they died, prior to writing? What changed about that once we had writing?
            1. jatora · · focus · HN ↗
              ever heard of the game &quot;telephone&quot;?
              1. verdverm · · focus · HN ↗
                yup, what always happened in the end?

                why is writing things down better?

                1. pixl97 · · focus · HN ↗
                  &gt;why is writing things down better?

                  For the same reason we make kids write out math problems rather than just reciting them. It engages different parts of the brain for one, you gain an expanded amount of context by doing so.

                  The next thing has to do with human memory, when you remember something it is never read only. Recalling memory can adjust your neurons and change the memory, sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. Hence why eyewitness testimony is mostly trash.

                  Writing it down also provides a larger workspace for making changes that you can loop over. Quite often things sound fine in our mind, then we write it, and reread it and we realize its wrong. These days people commonly use this in agentic workflows. One agent will conceptualize an idea, and then it&#x27;s passed off to another agent with a clean context to review for logical flaws. Reading ones own text does the same things for humans, we don&#x27;t load the full memory context of what we wrote and it seemingly allows us to iterate over the problem differently.

                  And I guess lastly, human voice is very low bandwidth. A wagon full of well written books is far easier to manage than the humans that contain that knowledge. The reader is at their leisure to learn and the speaker isn&#x27;t inconvenienced by being at someones beck and call.

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