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PS5 Linux lead quits: "a bunch of noobs using LLMs" that "they don't understand"

344 points · 227 comments · alexjplant

  1. arnaudsm · · focus · HN ↗
    Misleading title, there's another major reason: it's an embargo agreement violation that jeopardizes Linux support on PS5.

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    1. sva_ · · focus · HN ↗
      &gt; The scene used to be a group of highly talented researchers, but now it is just a bunch of noobs using LLMs and writing hacks they don&#x27;t even understand. Slop kiddies found the only hypervisor bug left, which I had also found a while ago, and decided to report to Sony.

      Sounds like he is salty that somebody found an exploit using LLM that he found manually (which probably took a significant amount of time.) I can partly understand it, but I mean that&#x27;s also just the game that somebody else might find an exploit, LLMs just make it easier. LLMs finding bugs is not a bad thing, just sucks for enjoyers of open source software in this particular case.

      You can probably find more though.

      1. DaSHacka · · focus · HN ↗
        I think you&#x27;ve hit the nail on the head. I&#x27;ve seen this behavior from others in the space before too, it&#x27;s not a one-off. They refuse to use LLMs themselves, and state as much publicly &quot;I simply don&#x27;t need to resort to using the slop machine, my skills are superior&quot;, yet FUME when others they deem as &quot;lesser&quot; are able to use it to achieve the same results as them, oftentimes faster.

        I can guarantee this post would not have been made had he not been the one to find that vuln first.

        1. bothers · · focus · HN ↗
          In this case, the &quot;same result&quot; was killing the project for money. But yeah, lol he mad, xd, etc. What a quality contribution.
          1. DaSHacka · · focus · HN ↗
            That&#x27;s not the fault of the model, though. Even knowledgeable people that found everything manually can (ir)responsibly disclose it to the vendor for a payout.

            Just look at the iOS jailbreaking scene and how Apple repeatedly poached all the devs until there was no one left, killing it off well before LLMs.

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