>AIs are not conscious. They do not feel, experience, or suffer. They do not have innate preferences or underlying motivations.
Opening paragraph, stated without evidence. Im not entirely convinced this is true. It likely is, but at some point it very well might stop being true.
We don't even know how to disprove that this statement with "AI" replaced by "other humans" other than by listening to people self-reporting and taking their word for it and/or defining the words in ways that do not rely on a subjective experience.
Until we know how to objectively measure if someone or something is conscious, it seems unreasonable to make statements with any kind of certainty about it.
Sure, if you take a materialist empiricist perspective, which is myopic at best. As humans we have the unique and wonderful ability to know truths by themselves. Machines do not have minds, and they can not.
What position are you taking? (Genuine question.) Do you believe humans are conscious because of a special property we have? If you are a dualist, how do you explain the interaction in physical space between the non-physical special property and the physical brain?
I do. God. I am partial to and bullish on the brain being a quantum-classical computer. There has been interesting research exploring that recently [0, 1, 2, 3]. That (quantum mechanics) seems to be escape-hatch, so to speak, from the otherwise deterministic, mechanical procession of the universe.
For it to be an "escape hatch", there'd need to be a measurably different distribution of outputs than what you'd otherwise expect, that translates to functions that are not Turing computable. There is zero evidence for that.
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Opening paragraph, stated without evidence. Im not entirely convinced this is true. It likely is, but at some point it very well might stop being true.
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Until we know how to objectively measure if someone or something is conscious, it seems unreasonable to make statements with any kind of certainty about it.
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[0]** <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/15280350_Quantum_optical_coherence_in_cytoskeletal_microtubules_Implications_for_brain_function" rel="nofollow">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/15280350_Quantum_op...
[1] <a href="https://pubs.acs.org/jpcbfk/article-pdf/128/17/4035/9613831/jp3c07936.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://pubs.acs.org/jpcbfk/article-pdf/128/17/4035/9613831/...
[2] <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/395650039_Parametric_Resonance_via_Neuronal_Microtubules_Filtering_Optical_Signals_by_Tryptophan_Qubits" rel="nofollow">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/395650039_Parametri...
[3] <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/385131105_Consciousness_a_quantum_optical_effect_in_fluorescent_protein_pathways" rel="nofollow">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/385131105_Conscious...
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