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A warning about 'model welfare'

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  1. addag · · focus · HN ↗
    It is interesting to see that in a time when a lot of people accept the theory of materialism for the human brain (i.e the view that everything is physical and the mind is a product of brain), the same people tend to have a "hidden" dualist view on LLMs. Suddenly, they claim that what happens in the brain cannot be replicated anywhere else because "something" is lacking, but either they don't say what it is, or it is stated without any strong scientific basis.

    I think that the simplest explanation is that it is hard for those people to imagine consciousness outside of biological systems and they try to rationalize it.

    1. suddenlybananas · · focus · HN ↗
      We don't know anything about how consciousness works? Why couldn't there be a material fact about the biological substrate that is necessary for qualia? I don't see how that possibility makes you a crypto-dualist. If anything, the idea that the abstract computations are the most important thing is maybe more crypto-dualist.
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