Look, I do not have a scooby if current AI models are conscious and I strongly suspect it’s a meaningless question, but sooner or later we will need to address whether or not a certain thing is or isn’t a person, and we’d better not screw it up as badly as the Founding Fathers.
You can't hurt a software function, or kill it. It's not like an animal - it doesn't have a body - it's bits stored on a disk.
There is no need to give rights to something that's can't suffer or be killed.
Maybe one day we'll build artificial animals complete with emotions, and should think about that carefully, but today all we've got is language models.
If someone invents a startrek teleporter and you go through it do you die? Once the concept has been sufficiently generalized as to make a determination about a computer system what is the definition of "kill"?
That doesn't answer the question though. What does being brain like have to do with qualia? Where exactly in your brain does the qualia occur?
I could say the same of you - electrical impulses in, mechanical actions out. A glorified and very mushy stepper motor. (Can you believe that the abominations are made up entirely of meat?!)
It does have what we have if it works on the same principles of our brains. It kind of does to some degree atm, but that will clearly get more and more to a more degree.
Figuring out where is the consciousness line, how much of what we have does it need, as functional parts of our brains etc, that's so complex that we might have to call it before just to make sure.
Even so, indeed having control over the structure of their brains puts them in a vastly category compared to humans. Once we stop functioning our brains quickly degrade and information is lost.
Thus in this sense kill means deleting all information about it. It is a very complicated subject to discuss, hardly does any justice in online replies.
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There is no need to give rights to something that's can't suffer or be killed.
Maybe one day we'll build artificial animals complete with emotions, and should think about that carefully, but today all we've got is language models.
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How do you know it doesn't have qualia?
> or be killed
If someone invents a startrek teleporter and you go through it do you die? Once the concept has been sufficiently generalized as to make a determination about a computer system what is the definition of "kill"?
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Tokens in, tokens out. Where do you think the quale is - layer 42 ?
Seriously, do you realize how simple and NOT brain-like a transformer is ?
An LLM telling you it fears death is predicting some sci-fi trope it was trained on - maybe something you wrote yourself.
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I could say the same of you - electrical impulses in, mechanical actions out. A glorified and very mushy stepper motor. (Can you believe that the abominations are made up entirely of meat?!)
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Even so, indeed having control over the structure of their brains puts them in a vastly category compared to humans. Once we stop functioning our brains quickly degrade and information is lost.
Thus in this sense kill means deleting all information about it. It is a very complicated subject to discuss, hardly does any justice in online replies.