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A warning about 'model welfare'

242 points · 701 comments · andsoitis

  1. addag · · focus · HN ↗
    It is interesting to see that in a time when a lot of people accept the theory of materialism for the human brain (i.e the view that everything is physical and the mind is a product of brain), the same people tend to have a "hidden" dualist view on LLMs. Suddenly, they claim that what happens in the brain cannot be replicated anywhere else because "something" is lacking, but either they don't say what it is, or it is stated without any strong scientific basis.

    I think that the simplest explanation is that it is hard for those people to imagine consciousness outside of biological systems and they try to rationalize it.

    1. causal · · focus · HN ↗
      This is a strawman. Suleyman is not arguing that the human brain cannot be replicated. LLMs are nothing like human brains. Cargo-culting consciousness is not replicating the brain, not even a tiny bit.
      1. roryirvine · · focus · HN ↗
        Cephalopod and decapod brains aren't much like human brains either, yet it's still reasonable to regard them as being sentient and worthy of protection from unnecessary suffering.
        1. causal · · focus · HN ↗
          They have a lot more in common with humans than LLMs have with either. Complexity is not evidence of consciousness.
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